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15th Feb 2024: Astro Pixel Processor 2.0.0-beta29 released - macOS native File Chooser, macOS CMD-Q fixed, read-only Fits on network fixed and other bug fixes

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M1 Native Support

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(@rixon)
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This is such great news. Thank you for prioritizing this. I'm here to help with the beta testing. I'm trying to purchase the new Mac Studio with M1 Ultra on Friday at an Apple store near me. Hopefully, I'll have some luck. Most likely it will be the 64GB version, though I would prefer the 128GB one. The backorders are already into June for these. So I'll be lucky if I can get one at their store. Was successful in doing so when the Macbook M1 Max was released.  


   
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(@williamshaw)
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@rixon 

Keen to know how the studio performs. I'm weighing up one of those vs a threadripper box.


   
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(@jonathankimmitt)
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Hi Mabula,

I just plumped for APP because it seemed like the easiest tool to use for non-experts. Unlike some other famously bad evaluations, it does not have an annoying popup every ten minutes to remind you to pay up. I'm looking forward to native Apple M1 support in the next release, is that on a fixed schedule, or on a best efforts basis?


   
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@jonathankimmitt it basically already runs on M1 in development. We just have an issue with the processing speed at the moment, related to GPU. I hope that'll not be a big issue, if not and when fixed, we'll release a native version.


   
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(@jeffreyhorne)
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Posted by: @vincent-mod

@jonathankimmitt it basically already runs on M1 in development. We just have an issue with the processing speed at the moment, related to GPU. I hope that'll not be a big issue, if not and when fixed, we'll release a native version.

@vincent-mod and @mabula-admin, this is so exciting! Thank you for getting this implemented for us!


   
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(@maartenb)
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Greatly anticipated! Cannot wait to see that run natively on my M1 Max. On a side note: APP looks very blurry on the 14" MacBook Pro. Would be great if APP could use the OS's windows / dialogues / etc. 


   
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(@turtlecat1000)
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Greatly anticipated! Cannot wait to see that run natively on my M1 Max. On a side note: APP looks very blurry on the 14" MacBook Pro. Would be great if APP could use the OS's windows / dialogues / etc. 

Java won't use the native OS's dialogs and such but there is a really simple way of giving a skin to the default ones that makes them look and behave more correctly for the environment. I made that suggestion a month or so ago. It will at least help a bit if they implement it. It's literally like a line or two of code but it may not be a priority for them.


   
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(@maartenb)
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@turtlecat1000 - I'm all in for it! OS style file browsing, honoring shortcuts in the finder etc are all more than welcome.


   
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Yep, all of this is in the pipeline, when it'll be incorporated I can't promise yet though. We're now making great steps with moving to JDK 17, better speed, etc. first.


   
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(@andrecajolais)
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Looks more complicate than expected???? 


   
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(@vincent-mod)
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Not really no, though it is a struggle for many applications that are cross-platform to switch this fast. We now have M1 capable Java runtimes and are working on the final steps to get it fully working. It's not always easy indeed, but we're very close now.


   
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(@andrecajolais)
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@vincent-mod Nice to read! Mabula is doing such a great job making APP, not surprised that he will make it happen! As all of you supporting him. Greetings AC


   
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Posted by: @vincent-mod

Not really no, though it is a struggle for many applications that are cross-platform to switch this fast. We now have M1 capable Java runtimes and are working on the final steps to get it fully working. It's not always easy indeed, but we're very close now.

Do you expect the next release to be a maintenance release with M1 support, or will you hold out longer to add new features in addition to the code migration for M1?


   
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We have a version with more features already, the M1 support is one of the last things we need to get right. Apple dropped support for various things and this is what is challenging as we want APP to run on older Macs as well. We're working hard on fixing this last hurdle.


   
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(@gmehal)
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@vincent-mod Any updates?


   
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(@vincent-mod)
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Yes! We have the M1 version running, it took quite a bit of work to fix some security related issues on MacOS, but that's all done. The only thing that's still an issue is support for the new liquid retina displays, Mabula has to buy one to test that properly. Other than that all seems fine and we expect a first beta next week, given no hick-ups etc.


   
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(@williamshaw)
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Congratulations on that! Looking forward to seeing benchmarks from folks trying it out. It looks like the M1 cores are not multi-threaded but Geekbench data is encouraging.


   
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There will be some significant increases yes, not yet for the LNC step, but Mabula is also working on getting that multi threaded in a future version.


   
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(@andrecajolais)
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Just can't wait to test that new M1 version... Many thanks for the hard work!!!!


   
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(@jeffmorgan)
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Posted by: @vincent-mod

There will be some significant increases yes, not yet for the LNC step, but Mabula is also working on getting that multi threaded in a future version.

That will be a big leap. I processed my M101 subs last night and here are the stats for my M1 iMac 24":

 

398 subs (HaLRGB)

52.2 mb per sub (ASI2600mm APS-C format)

Integration settings per channel, integrate all, automatic, 2nd degree LNC, 4 iterations, lanczos-3

Run time for Tab 6 Integrate: 16 hours.


   
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(@vincent-mod)
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Yes, we agree. 😉 Btw, I'd only advise to go higher with the degrees if the standard setting doesn't work well as upping the degrees will also take a lot longer. Sometimes you don't even need LNC. But yes, if multi threading works there it would help a lot.


   
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(@gmehal)
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@vincent-mod      that's great! I'm here to help with testing as I've said before, just let me know.


   
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(@vincent-mod)
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That's why we have beta versions anyway, this next one will be a beta first. Any feedback on that will be super appreciated. 🙂


   
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(@andrecajolais)
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@vincent-mod I would also be glad to help testing this first beta version for M1 Silicon, on both my Mac mini M1 and MacBook Pro 14in with M1 Pro. Will it be an open beta or you will choose the beta testers?


   
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(@vincent-mod)
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An open beta, like usual. But we of course appreciate all the feedback we get from that!


   
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(@jonathankimmitt)
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Just a couple of days to wait now apparently ...

 


   
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(@vincent-mod)
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Indeed, like I said on May 2nd "we expect next week". Which is this one. 🙂


   
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(@jonathankimmitt)
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A few more inane comments and I can be promoted from hydrogen atom to helium molecule, or perhaps alpha particle comes first?


   
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(@maartenb)
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Looking forward to it! The current version gets my MacBook Pro M1 Max to spin its fans... 😉


   
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(@jeffmorgan)
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@maartenb 

 

LOL! I did not even know my new iMac had fans until I started using APP.

Looking forward to the Beta taking advantage of the new architecture, this thoroughbred wants to run.


   
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