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2026-10-09 APP 2.0.0-beta48 has been released !

This is mainly a bug fix release for the reported bugs in beta47. In addition it has a significant User Interface performance improvement noticable when you need to process 1000s of images in APP.

2026-10-03 APP 2.0.0-beta47 has been released !

This is a very big release... many code optimizations/rewrites, many parts of APP are much faster and more precise, especially star analysis and registration are much faster ! Big mosaics will go much faster 🙂

And we introduce a new preview filter, which includes the new Adaptive Deep Sky Stretch and a General Levels Stretch, this has been long over due. The old preview filter (the panel on the right side to stretch and preview your data) has not been updated for a couple of years and it is a critical part of any APP session.

Adaptive Deep Sky Stretch or ADSS is a much more intuitive stretch algorithm. It is also color preserving (which is a great new addition in itself ! ) which means that the highlights are no longer bleached, color is maintained from the linear data while stretching. You can simply stretch your data using the sky background level and signal width sliders which work much easier and more intuitive. You no longer need to fiddle with the old complicated sliders with zoom buttons. All the zoom buttons for the sliders are made redundant. And you can enter slider values in the slider value fields yourself. I will make a youtube video in the coming days to explain and fully introduce ADSS. Once the video is ready, it will be highlighted on the forum.

RGB Combine upgrade !. The RGB Combine Tool has been rewritten mostly. The tool is faster and easier to use and most importantly, the Luminance slider to inject a luminance channel or channels into the RGB composite is now working correctly. It no longer bleaches the RGB colors. Combined with the new ADSS preview, you will get much better and easier great composites with great color! I will also explain this in a new youtube video.

Looking forward to 1.075 -- File Lists perhaps?

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(@oopfan)
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Hi Mabula,

I've invested the better part of the last 2 days writing a web app to help me select frames I captured for a mosaic of M31.

The app ensures that white balance is maintained across RGB according to predetermined ratios I measured for my camera and filters: 1.62 : 1.00 : 1.34. (Those ratios are user inputs to the app.) The app also asks for the desired total integration time of luminance and of color.

The app uses an open source JavaScript library (fitsjs) to read the FITS file headers of files you select on your computer. It calculates Altitude, Airmass, and Extinction given the RA and DEC of the object, UT of capture time, observer's Latitude and Longitude, and the Filter used. Then it sorts all files by Extinction so that the files having the highest signal-to-noise ratio are chosen first.

With a few clicks I selected all LRGB files I've captured so far for "Panel F" of my M31 mosaic. Finally, I export the results.

Here is an example when I ask for 30 minutes of L and 90 minutes of R+G+B while maintaining white balance:

filter,file,include
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-17-28_001.fits,
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-19-00_002.fits,
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-20-32_003.fits,
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-22-03_004.fits,
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-23-35_005.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-25-07_006.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-26-39_007.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-28-11_008.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-29-42_009.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-31-14_010.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-32-46_011.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-34-18_012.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-35-49_013.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-37-21_014.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-38-53_015.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-40-25_016.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-41-57_017.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-43-29_018.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-45-01_019.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-46-33_020.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-48-05_021.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-49-37_022.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-51-09_023.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-52-40_024.fits,x
opB,M31-Panel-F_Light_opB_90.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-54-12_025.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-44-21_001.fits,
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-45-30_002.fits,
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-46-39_003.fits,
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-47-47_004.fits,
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-48-56_005.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-50-05_006.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-51-14_007.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-52-23_008.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-53-32_009.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-54-40_010.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-55-50_011.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-56-58_012.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-58-07_013.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T00-59-16_014.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-00-25_015.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-01-33_016.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-02-42_017.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-03-51_018.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-05-00_019.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-06-08_020.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-07-17_021.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-08-26_022.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-09-35_023.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-10-43_024.fits,x
opG,M31-Panel-F_Light_opG_67.500_secs_2019-08-26T01-11-52_025.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-38-57_001.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-40-30_002.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-42-03_003.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-43-36_004.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-45-08_005.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-46-41_006.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-48-14_007.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-51-19_009.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-52-52_010.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-54-25_011.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-55-57_012.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-57-30_013.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T02-59-03_014.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T03-43-24_018.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T03-44-57_019.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T03-46-30_020.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T03-48-03_021.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T03-55-47_026.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T03-57-20_027.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T03-58-53_028.fits,x
opL,M31-Panel-F_Light_opL_90_secs_2019-08-05T04-00-25_029.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-25T23-52-04_001.fits,
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-25T23-53-57_002.fits,
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-25T23-55-47_003.fits,
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-25T23-57-38_004.fits,
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-25T23-59-29_005.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-01-19_006.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-03-10_007.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-05-01_008.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-06-51_009.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-08-43_010.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-10-34_011.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-12-24_012.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-14-15_013.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-16-06_014.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-17-57_015.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-19-48_016.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-21-39_017.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-23-29_018.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-25-20_019.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-27-11_020.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-29-02_021.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-30-53_022.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-32-43_023.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-34-34_024.fits,x
opR,M31-Panel-F_Light_opR_109.400_secs_2019-08-26T00-36-25_025.fits,x

It is easy to import this into a spreadsheet.

When processing I launch APP 1.074. At this point I have two options:

1) Add only the files marked with the "x" shown above, or

2) Add all files but then uncheck the ones without the "x"

My question is: Will APP 1.075 offer something akin to Deep Sky Stacker's "File Lists"?

Thanks for a great product!

 



   
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That looks really impressive! Is it indeed needed I'd like to know? As in, do you see differences in the end result for APP when doing it this way?



   
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(@oopfan)
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Hi Vincent,

It's been a long slog becoming proficient using a mono camera for color imaging. My first attempt is documented here:

https://astrotuna.com/ngc-6791/

As you can see the blue stars are horribly bloated. Take a look at the details, I exposed R, G, B the same: 80x50s. That was the problem. I learned later that the key to getting a balanced image is to adjust exposure and/or frame count to compensate for the shape of the sensor's QE curve. The 290M mono camera is most sensitive to red and least sensitive to blue (by a large factor!) By using the same integration time across all channels, blue was guaranteed to have a much lower signal-to-noise ratio than the red channel. That's why blue stars are so bloated in that image.

The breakthrough for me came from reading this article by Al Kelly:

http://kellysky.net/White%20Balancing%20RGB%20Filters.pdf

Thankfully, I took a course at AAVSO on CCD Photometry so a lot of the terminology was familiar to me.

Recently I took what I learned and wrote up instructions for performing it using AstroImageJ:

https://u235.herokuapp.com/color-balance-calculator-instructions.html

The last couple days I added a new "calculator" called the "LRGB Stack Balancer" to take an existing set of LRGB frames and rebalance them differently from how they were originally captured.

https://u235.herokuapp.com/lrgb-stack-balancer.html

The topic of the post you are reading has to do with experiments with my "LRGB Stack Balancer". Specifically I wanted to know how much color integration time (i.e. R+G+B) I needed in order to accurately show color in a final LRGB image. It turns out "very little". I was getting acceptable results with as little as 30 minutes total of RGB (white balanced, of course.)

Regarding cameras and white balancing, I see that very high-end cameras ($5,000+) have sensors with desirable QE characteristics where the response is relatively constant from 400nm to 700nm. For those cameras, white balancing is not as critical. I, on the other hand, am cheap. I haven't spent more than $400 on a camera. My latest is a 10 year old Atik 314E. Works great but it's not very sensitive to red, so I need to compensate.

Finally, I welcome everyone to play with my calculators, however, the latest one "LRGB Stack Balancer" relies on well-structured FITS files containing accurate information. I've tested it with Ekos and it works great but I can't guarantee other capture software will work with it. There is no documentation as of yet. Please feel free to play with it but keep an eye on the "Altitude" field. If it shows some nonsensical value then there is missing or inaccurate data in the FITS header. I need to work all this out with adequate validation checks and warnings. Something for me to work on.

 



   
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