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[Solved] Mosaic and Session panels independently


(@jjones)
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This is probably easy, but I am working on some mosaic 2x2 and if I integrate say all my images one panel and a time into a master integration for panel 1, panel 2, panel 3, panel 4, then do it all as a mosaic it works out great.  But I seem to have to do them independently and then remove that panel 1 set of lights, then add panel 2 and do it, then remove them and do panel 3.

 

IF I add them all at once and tell it to kick out per session, it does them as a session individually, but with the entire black empty sections of panel 2, 3, 4?  If that makes sense.  It's not cropping it down to just session 1.  So when I go to integrate those master lights as a 2x2 mosaic, it swirls it all to death.

 

Is there a way to do panel 1, panel 2, panel 3, panel 4 all together BUT have it kick out each in it's own 'session' master AND have it cropped and registered to only that session as if they were done independently?

 

hope that gibberish is making sense.


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(@wvreeven)
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@jjones Hi Josh,

This is a very good question. To my best of knowledge this is not possible currently with APP. I have asked Mabula to confirm this.

 

Wouter


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(@mabula-admin)
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Hi Josh @jjones,

"This is probably easy, but I am working on some mosaic 2x2 and if I integrate say all my images one panel and a time into a master integration for panel 1, panel 2, panel 3, panel 4, then do it all as a mosaic it works out great."

Yes, that is the recommended workflow for sure 😉 It is for sure the most robust and fastest way as well, especially for much larger mosaics.

"IF I add them all at once and tell it to kick out per session, it does them as a session individually, but with the entire black empty sections of panel 2, 3, 4? If that makes sense. It's not cropping it down to just session 1. So when I go to integrate those master lights as a 2x2 mosaic, it swirls it all to death."

Indeed, this is not how you want to process it in the current APP versions. This has to do with mathematics and optical distortion correction in the way it is currently implemented in APP.

And to clarify, if you load all frames of all panels, the Field Of View of all the integrations of your panels will always be the mosaic Field Of View (FOV). I think that you are asking to have 4 different FOV's, 1 per session, right? I don't think that is something very usefull to implement, since the advised workflow already easily gives you that. It would only complicate the possible settings and integration options more I feel.

In the future, your request to load all frames at once and get a good mosaic will become possible, but only after a big update of the registration engine.

Mabula

 

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(@jjones)
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@mabula-admin ok, I just wanted to confirm I wasn't missing something. 

This post was modified 1 month ago 2 times by Josh Jones

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(@mabula-admin)
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Posted by: @jjones

@mabula-admin ok, I just wanted to confirm I wasn't missing something.

Okay 😉 no problem !

 


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(@jjones)
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Reason I ask is when setting up a lot of images, say from a RASA, it may run for a while, and in this workflow, I have to come back, remove panel 1 images or unmark, then  just integrate the next set...

If it handled sessions independently, then I could leave it and have it do all 4 panels in a night, or 9 panels in a 3x3 and kick out nice individual panels. 

Sort of how it does it by filter already in one full run but kicks out individual filter images cropped.

As it is, I have to go back and just set it to integrate that panel, then run it again, then again... if that makes sense.  I'm super happy with results on it though.


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(@mabula-admin)
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Dear Josh @jjones,

Sure, yes, that is the advised workflow for APP at the moment for mosaic processing 😉

At some point this will be greatly improved with a new registration engine that will be able to manage your suggested workflow.

Mabula

 


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