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Mosaic Issues in Astro Pixel Processor 2.0.0 beta29

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(@martinontheroad)
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I get a very cryptic error message when I attempt to stack/stitch 13 images of the Milky Way together.  Error message is attached. I haven't a clue as to what this could be due to.  Any help in sorting this out would be greatly appreciated.

PC:

  • MSI Raider Laptop
  • 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13950HX 20 GHz
  • GeForce GE68HX 13VF graphics card
  • 32 GB RAM
  • 1 TB SSD
  • Windows 11 Home, Version 23H2, 22631.3880
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(@martinontheroad)
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I have attempted to reduce the number of frames stacked to generate a mosaic panel - 8 subs with generous overlap.  I am still getting the same or very similar error.  I could really use some assistance in navigating this issue.  Thanks in advance.

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How many CPUs is APP showing on the slider at the top left?


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(@martinontheroad)
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@walsc It was either 31 or 32 CPUs.



   
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This should be fine. What are the parameters on you ticked or changed for this mosaic?



   
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(@martinontheroad)
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@walsc There are quite a few parameters to tic.  Here is where I currently stand.  I have managed to create 4 FITS files in APP that together should create my Milky Way panorama.  They were created from RAW files, Master Darks, Master Bias, and Bad Pixel Map.  I then restarted APP, loaded in these 4 FITS files and proceeded to stack them in Mosaic mode.  They loaded fine. I used Calibration defaults. Analyze Stars went fine, no signs of anything radically different from the results when building the mosaic panels.  When I ran registration, I received the error message below, which I can only speculate as to the cause.  Thanks for your engagement.

Regards, Martin

P.S. It was 32 CPUs

 

Registration Tab Settings:

Pattern Recognition:  quadrilaterals

Scale Start: 1      

Scale Stop: 15

Flip Descriptors in X/Y: unchecked

Dynamic Distortion Correction:  Use DDC checked; Same camera and optics not checked due to message from APP indicating not to do so when using previously calibrated files.

No Distortion Model

Distortion Margin: 0.005 (default),   Save Distortion Model unchecked

Registration Mode: mosaic

Registration Model: Calibrated Projective

Rotation: 000 degrees

 

Calibrated Projective Options

Projection Method: equirectangularProjection

Move COP Horizontal: 000

Move COP Vertical: 000

 

Save Registered Frames:

Scale: 1.0

Interpolation Method: lanczos-3; no under/overshoot

 

Error Received Using Quadrilaterals

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Error Received Using Triangles

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Error Received Using Pentagons - a total non-starter

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OK. Try this:
Tab 0,1,2 unchanged.
Tab3: 1000 stars, maybe more
Tab 4: Scale start: 1, scale stop:10, distortion correction on, same camera off, registration mode mosaic
Tab 5: normalization mode: advanced
Tab 6: enable MBB, slider somewhere between 10 and 25% (depending on overlap)
everything else default.



   
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I did not include Tab 5 and 6 settings as the images will not register.  I will try >1000 stars in Tab 3.  Perhaps that will assist with getting past the Registration phase.

 I have been using max MBB in general.  It does not appear to slow my processing down much.  I have also been using LNC1, 3 passes.



   
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(@imnewhere)
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I do mosaics quite a bit and MBB is set to 15%, LNC2 3 iterations, and for star analysis I find that 2000 seems to work best. Also make sure that on tab 5 normalization is set to advanced.



   
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@imnewhere I usually do not use LNC, most of the time it is not necessary or does weird things, and it slows down the process significantly.



   
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@martinontheroad As APP has strange limits everywhere, I do not recommend to set MBB at a very high level.



   
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@walsc I will take that into consideration.  But, would settings in Tabs 5 and 6 impact Tab 4, star registration?  My instinct says “No,” but others may know better.  Right now, I am stuck at Tab 4 and cannot Register my mosaic panels.



   
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Ultimately, we will not be spared the fact that sooner or later we will have to do everything with PI anyway, there is no longer any support from the developer here.



   
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@walsc I have very good results with it when mixing data with high variability and CMOS with CCD data. I'm also running a monster of a computer so I am not worried about slowing down either. The current mosaic I am working on has 56 panels for each channel of SHO, so 168 total master lights in it.



   
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@imnewhere Thanks for this.  I’ll give these settings a try. Maybe the 2000 stars will get me past the Registration tab.



   
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@martinontheroad 

It definitely went through the whole process for me. Too bad APP will not combine them in RGB combine without me resizing them down

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@imnewhere But you can register and combine these results in PI.



   
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@walsc will PI combine the masters without redoing registration? I know that I have combined masters from PI in APP before without registering them. I may try running them through PI this evening. This is a monster size image though.



   
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No. You must apply an astrometric solution (scripts/imageanalysis/imagesolver) for each master in PI, then you must register them with processes/imageregistration/staralignment. After that you can combine nthem with PI.

But if your masters are already registered with APP, maybe PI will combine these without further registration, you have to try.


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They have already went through everything up through the integration tab, but APP isn't able to do the combine RGB due to the files being the size they are.

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@imnewhere I would just try if PI can combine these.



   
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