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Flats don't work right all of a sudden

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(@maxthebuilder)
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Hello,

This is not necessarily APP issue since I got the same result with Siril.
I decided to post here nonetheless since I didn't get anything helpful at Cludynights.

Got a new ASI2600MC camera to replace the one which just died (also ASI2600MC).

Collected Bias, Dark and Flat correction frames and composed Masters (in APP).

Used those correction Masters for 3 targets over four nights.

Worked OK.

With the 4th target I decided to collect new Flats.

To my surprise they didn't work right.

Old Flats still work OK.

New flats don't work with any of those 4 targets.

Same software (APP), same scope (RC6), same flat panel and brightness, same exposure time.
Same everything but the result is very different.

Tried different exposures, new Bias and even DarkFlats - same outcome.

The only peculiar thing about this: everything is 2x2 binned.
I don't normally do this but had to match binning with the Splinter galaxy I shot in 2023.

Integration with old flats:

ngc3938 50fr St sm

Integration with new flats:

ngc393850fr bias flats St sm

Stretched in APP (15% BG, 3 sigma, 2.5 base).

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Max



   
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(@connor231)
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Max

I don't have a good answer for you, but I can offer some comments.

First - if you look closely, the first image has the exact same issue as the second - its just a lot fainter. So there's probably something wrong with both the old and the new flats - its not a new problem.

I have seen something similar before, and I never completely got to the bottom of it. But my working theory is that it is caused by internal reflections on the interior wall of the scope. I suspect that it is because the light from the flat panel is not coming in parallel. Instead, the light from one side of the panel bounces off the other side of the scope and creates a circular distortion that is different to the light path of a distant object (stars).  In support of this - you can see the the effect of the spider support for the secondary. Its clear that most telescope geometries do not significantly suffer from this. Perhaps your rc6 is an exception.

If this idea is right then a solution may involve changing the light source for the flats so that the light comes in in a more parallel way. Perhaps move the panel further from the scope (maybe with a dew shield), or try sky flats. If you choose to try this and it does work I'd be interested in hearing back from you.

Remember, this idea is unproven and I may be completely wrong. If anyone has a better idea I'd like to hear it.

regards

JC


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