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2026-10-09 APP 2.0.0-beta48 has been released !

This is mainly a bug fix release for the reported bugs in beta47. In addition it has a significant User Interface performance improvement noticable when you need to process 1000s of images in APP.

2026-10-03 APP 2.0.0-beta47 has been released !

This is a very big release... many code optimizations/rewrites, many parts of APP are much faster and more precise, especially star analysis and registration are much faster ! Big mosaics will go much faster 🙂

And we introduce a new preview filter, which includes the new Adaptive Deep Sky Stretch and a General Levels Stretch, this has been long over due. The old preview filter (the panel on the right side to stretch and preview your data) has not been updated for a couple of years and it is a critical part of any APP session.

Adaptive Deep Sky Stretch or ADSS is a much more intuitive stretch algorithm. It is also color preserving (which is a great new addition in itself ! ) which means that the highlights are no longer bleached, color is maintained from the linear data while stretching. You can simply stretch your data using the sky background level and signal width sliders which work much easier and more intuitive. You no longer need to fiddle with the old complicated sliders with zoom buttons. All the zoom buttons for the sliders are made redundant. And you can enter slider values in the slider value fields yourself. I will make a youtube video in the coming days to explain and fully introduce ADSS. Once the video is ready, it will be highlighted on the forum.

RGB Combine upgrade !. The RGB Combine Tool has been rewritten mostly. The tool is faster and easier to use and most importantly, the Luminance slider to inject a luminance channel or channels into the RGB composite is now working correctly. It no longer bleaches the RGB colors. Combined with the new ADSS preview, you will get much better and easier great composites with great color! I will also explain this in a new youtube video.

Analyse Star fails

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(@bobw55)
Red Giant
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I am using Darks, FLat, Bias.

I get this message:

02:16:54 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: starting...
02:16:54 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: 33 image loaders created...
02:17:22 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit : starting analysis of stars in frame
02:17:32 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit : received star analysis results of frame
02:17:32 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: analysis failed
02:17:32 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: received 1 of 33 frames to analyse
02:17:32 - 3) ANALYSE STARS:
02:17:32 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0002_2019-09-06-000335_gain390.fit : starting analysis of stars in frame

Failed on all 33 frames.

I know the light subs are good.  Shot with  ASI294MC Pro Cooled to -10.

I can run everything through Nebulosity and the image comes out great.

I have run other images through APP with no problem, this just started 2 nights ago.   Tonight with all new subs it again failed.

I have set the (Kapa) down to 1.5 after reading some other post on the subject, but it did not help.



   
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(@Anonymous 174)
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Can you show me one of these failed lights? Just upload a stretch here. Thanks.



   
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(@bobw55)
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Here you go

 

I appreciate this.



   
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(@Anonymous 174)
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Thank you! So the first thing I see is that it's not in focus, so maybe APP disregards many. Could you try to set the pattern recognition from quadrilaterals to triangles (Tab 4) and see of that works?



   
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(@bobw55)
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Ok will give that a try



   
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(@bobw55)
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Set tab 4 to triangles.  still getting the error.

10:49:27 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: starting...
10:49:27 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: 33 image loaders created...
10:50:00 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit : starting analysis of stars in frame
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit : received star analysis results of frame
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: analysis failed
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: received 1 of 33 frames to analyse
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS:
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0002_2019-09-06-000335_gain390.fit : starting analysis of stars in frame
10:50:25 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0002_2019-09-06-000335_gain390.fit : received star analysis results of frame
10:50:25 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: analysis failed
10:50:25 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: received 2 of 33 frames to analyse
10:50:25 - 3) ANALYSE STARS:
10:50:30 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0003_2019-09-06-000438_gain390.fit : starting analysis of stars in frame.

I know the focus may be a tad off but I would think not that bad.

APP ran some subs the other day that were kind of terrible.

10:49:27 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: 33 image loaders created...
10:49:27 - GENERAL IMAGE LOADER: loading frame E:\AstroStuff\DSO Captures\M33 9_7_19\Lights\Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit
10:49:27 - GENERAL IMAGE LOADER: loading frame E:\AstroStuff\DSO Captures\M33 9_7_19\Lights\Light_M33_60sec_frame0002_2019-09-06-000335_gain390.fit
10:49:33 - 2) CALIBRATE: Adaptive Data Pedestal: disabled
10:49:33 - GENERAL IMAGE LOADER: loading frame E:\AstroStuff\MD-ISO_gain_390.0-exp_60.0s-25subs-ZWO_ASI294MC_Pro-4144x2822-NR-avg.fits
10:49:41 - GENERAL IMAGE LOADER: frame E:\AstroStuff\MD-ISO_gain_390.0-exp_60.0s-25subs-ZWO_ASI294MC_Pro-4144x2822-NR-avg.fits was loaded successfully
10:49:41 - GENERAL IMAGE LOADER: loading frame E:\AstroStuff\MF-ISO_gain_120.0-exp_10.0s-30subs-ZWO_ASI294MC_Pro-4144x2822-NR-noBl-avg.fits
10:49:48 - GENERAL IMAGE LOADER: frame E:\AstroStuff\MF-ISO_gain_120.0-exp_10.0s-30subs-ZWO_ASI294MC_Pro-4144x2822-NR-noBl-avg.fits was loaded successfully
10:49:48 - 2) CALIBRATE: analysing MasterFlat for normalization of flat-field correction...
10:49:49 - 2) CALIBRATE: performing calibration in 32bits normalized floats...
10:49:49 - 2) CALIBRATE: converting data to 32bits normalized floats...
10:49:51 - GENERAL IMAGE LOADER: frame E:\AstroStuff\DSO Captures\M33 9_7_19\Lights\Light_M33_60sec_frame0002_2019-09-06-000335_gain390.fit was loaded successfully
10:49:57 - 2) CALIBRATE: Adaptive Data Pedestal: disabled
10:49:57 - 2) CALIBRATE: performing calibration in 32bits normalized floats...
10:49:57 - 2) CALIBRATE: converting data to 32bits normalized floats...
10:49:59 - GENERAL IMAGE LOADER: frame E:\AstroStuff\DSO Captures\M33 9_7_19\Lights\Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit was loaded successfully
10:50:00 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit : starting analysis of stars in frame
10:50:00 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: starting...
10:50:00 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: getting luminosity channel...
10:50:00 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: creating star map...
10:50:11 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: getting luminosity channel...
10:50:12 - DATA ANALYSER TOOLS: instantiated multi-core analytical memory blocks, size 127 MBs
10:50:12 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: identifying star candidates...
10:50:12 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: star map created successfully
10:50:13 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: identifying star candidates: initial FWHM estimate: 0.00 +- 0.00 pixels
10:50:13 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: identifying star candidates: small stars detected, adjusting FWHM estimate...
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: target noise level is at kappa 3.0
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: target luminosity of stars is 0
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: initially identified 0 of possible star candidates
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: identified star candidates successfully
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: no final details to receive
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit: closed
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: Light_M33_60sec_frame0001_2019-09-06-000233_gain390.fit : received star analysis results of frame
10:50:14 - 3) ANALYSE STARS: analysis failed
10:50:1

 



   
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(@Anonymous 174)
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Well, sorry to say but the focus is pretty off. The FWHM is about 17, while normally you should be around 2-3 most of the time. Could you upload a second of the frames that failed? I can then see if I do get them registered as the one above, APP did find enough stars to do that.

Also, did you change any other settings or are these all at the default?



   
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(@bobw55)
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All other settings at default.

I used the focus assist in the ASIAIR.   I have a focus mask on the way.  Hope it gets here before my trial runs out.

Thanks you for the speedy replies and help.



   
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(@Anonymous 174)
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You can ask for an extension to your trial if you want, if you need that bit of extra time to test it that's fine.



   
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(@bobw55)
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I will do that.  I think my trial ends in just a few days, will be after the 15th before I can purchase it.

From what I have seen, I like it.



   
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