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Strange results with drizzle my data. Wrong settings?

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(@tobiasthale)
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Hello again with a new "issue?". I try out to drizzle my new data from sadr region and surroundings. I show you a few screenshots from the settings and in my opinion issues with drizzle in APP.

Any idea? Is it just a wrong setting?

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(@juergenn)
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@tobiasthale Hi. I'm not that drizzle specialist, but I think you have tom play with "droplet size". I think 0.5 is too small. I usualy work with values around 0.8, depending on the quality of my lights.



   
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(@mestutters)
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Hi,

I agree with Juergen. Think of fine rain falling on a dry pavement. Unless the drizzle is very persistent not every part of a paving slab will get wetted.

I thing this is what has happened with your drizzled image. Not every pixel in every channel of the output grid has received data from the available input files, hence eg the red dots etc: the corresponding pixels in blue and green channels have not picked up any signal. As Mabula has often stated drizzle can cause a major injection of noise and really requires reasonably plentiful input data.

If you are using say a drizzle value of 2, I would suggest you experiment with a lower value, say 1.5, and increase the droplet size.

When I first started experimenting with drizzle I got similar weird results but with persistence it can be made to work.

I've also found it informative to play with Russ Croman's MTF Analyser ( https://www.rc-astro.com/mtf-analyzer/) to gain an idea of what amount of spatial resolution I was actually missing out on with my imaging rig, in my case only a 3-4%, so I concluded using a high drizzle value was going to gain me very little .

Best of luck



   
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(@connor231)
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Tobias

For a colour camera I've had good results with a droplet size of 0.8 and a scale of 2. Remember with a colour camera you are sort of working with 2x2 cells, so a scale of 2 is a good place to start (but experiment).

My impression is that your images result from too small a droplet size possibly combined with not enough lights. I don't know how many lights you have used, but I would get at least 60 for a bayer drizzle - preferably more. Obviously with frequent dithers, preferably dither with every light (unless you are taking hundreds of lights). I'm no expert, but these parameters have worked well for me.

JC



   
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(@andybooth)
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My current goto settings for bayer drizzle with a CMOS camera , with my image scale of 1” per pixel are:

Scale 2.0x and droplet size of 1.0 with at least 80 (preferably 100) frames, with drizzle every frame.

If I have less frames, or noisy data, then I use 1.5 drop. 
this gives me good results. If I have too few frames, or I push the droplet size too small, I get a ‘basket weave’ effect on the background, and a high instance of false  coloured pixels.



   
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