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2026-10-09 APP 2.0.0-beta48 has been released !

This is mainly a bug fix release for the reported bugs in beta47. In addition it has a significant User Interface performance improvement noticable when you need to process 1000s of images in APP.

2026-10-03 APP 2.0.0-beta47 has been released !

This is a very big release... many code optimizations/rewrites, many parts of APP are much faster and more precise, especially star analysis and registration are much faster ! Big mosaics will go much faster 🙂

And we introduce a new preview filter, which includes the new Adaptive Deep Sky Stretch and a General Levels Stretch, this has been long over due. The old preview filter (the panel on the right side to stretch and preview your data) has not been updated for a couple of years and it is a critical part of any APP session.

Adaptive Deep Sky Stretch or ADSS is a much more intuitive stretch algorithm. It is also color preserving (which is a great new addition in itself ! ) which means that the highlights are no longer bleached, color is maintained from the linear data while stretching. You can simply stretch your data using the sky background level and signal width sliders which work much easier and more intuitive. You no longer need to fiddle with the old complicated sliders with zoom buttons. All the zoom buttons for the sliders are made redundant. And you can enter slider values in the slider value fields yourself. I will make a youtube video in the coming days to explain and fully introduce ADSS. Once the video is ready, it will be highlighted on the forum.

RGB Combine upgrade !. The RGB Combine Tool has been rewritten mostly. The tool is faster and easier to use and most importantly, the Luminance slider to inject a luminance channel or channels into the RGB composite is now working correctly. It no longer bleaches the RGB colors. Combined with the new ADSS preview, you will get much better and easier great composites with great color! I will also explain this in a new youtube video.

Problem Stitching a Mosaic together

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Hi Mabula, hope you are well!

 

I am currently trying to stitch my first bigger mosaic together and have a problem on the right corner of the mosaic. The single subs seem OK, no distorted stars etc. However the result has very distorted stars in one part of the mosaic. 

Do you have an idea how I could solve this? Setup was the same. Here a quick screenshot of the result:

Screenshot 2017 08 30 10.34.33

Here are the dropbox links to the all subs that I used in case you need them;

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In the last folder (2017-08-29) there are the two mosaic stacks that I tried so far (one with dynamic distortion correction with only 50 frames and one without ddc and all subs):

 

Settings according to file name:

St-avg-15000.0s-SC_1_3.0-x_1.0_LZ3-NS-full-eq-add-sc_BWMV_nor-AA-RL-MBB5_4thLNC_it3

St-avg-17102.0s-SC_1_3.0-x_1.0_MNC-NS-full-eq-add-sc_BWMV_nor-AA-RL-MBB5_4thLNC_it3

Thanks a lot for your help.

Best Frank



   
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Please don't mind the wrong naming of the folders, they are actually the western part of the Veil Nebula



   
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Well just saw I am not using the latest version, will try with 1.054 first



   
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Nope, still an error even wth 1.0.54:

Screenshot 2017 08 30 13.37.27

Here is the resulting file (following config St-avg-17102.0s-SC_1_3.0-x_1.0_LZ3-NS-full-eq-add-sc_BWMV_nor-AA-RL-MBB5_4thLNC_it1):

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Just in case you require the calibration files I used: 

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Thanks again and sorry for spamming here 🙂



   
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Hi Frank, 

I'll definitely have a look at your data. I'll download it right now 😉

I will try the mosaicing myself and will let you know my findings and hopefully suggestions to get it right.

Mabula



   
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Fabulous thanks!



   
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Hi Frank

Okay, I have had a thorough look at the data 😉

To be able to register the data correctly and robustly I would advise the following:

You can register all frames without the mosaic mode. All frames have overlap with all other frames. In that case, this can be registered robustly in the following way:

1) load all 57 frames of all sessions

2) register using the normal registration mode, enable same camera and optics, enable dynamic distortion correction and increase the scale stop slightly, I used 7.

Mosaic mode technically speaking is only needed, when you have frames that don't overlap with other frames. But if you do enable mosaic mode, try to feed already integrated mosaic panels into APP, instead of loading all frames of all panels. If you load all frames, then the calculations will take very long and won't be better. 

I did not use the calibration frames, only the CR2 raw files,

3) then finally I integrated with MBB at 25% and LNC degree 4th iterations 3 and median integration. Then I did 

  • remove light pollution
  • calibrated background
  • calibrated star colors

Stretched using APP's preview filter with saturation gives me the following:

Frank VeilNebula

Registration is fine I think.

Another way to register this robustly in mosaic mode requires saving the camera's and optics optical distortion pattern. Basically, you have 4 field of views

  • first night, the 24th is all same field of view more or less, mosaic panel 1
  • second night, the 28th is all the same field of view more or less, mosaic panel 2
  • third night. the 29th, is split over 2 different field of views half way the session, so these are mosaic panels 3 and 4

Then I would advise, to load 1 frame of all those sessions with different field of views. So 1 of the 24th, 1 of the 28th and 1 of the 29th first field of view and 1 of the 29th second field of view. Register those 4 frames with the calibrated projective model, enable same camera and optics, enable distortion correction and enable save distortion model. Save it with your camera's model name and the name of your optics. 

Then create these 4 panels separately using the following registration settings, enable distortion correction, enable same camera and optics and select the previously saved distortion model. Now the registration uses the saved distortion model in registering the frames per panel.

Then when you have the 4 panels, combine them in mosaic mode using dynamic distortion correction and disabling same camera and optics. Then you should get a robust registration as well.

Let me know if you can duplicate this 😉

Cheers,

Mabula

 



   
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Thanks a lot Mabula, this explanation is highly appreciated. I always thought I need to put all subs in and then registering using mosaic (it indeed took a while 😀 )

I am integrating right now and let you know about the result. Thanks again!

 

Just a quick side question:

In the new version, do I still need to apply the selective color after CSC or is this now done automatically?

Best Frank



   
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Your welcome Frank 😉

Yes, you would still need to use selective color after star color calibration. In 1.054 a bug is fixed in star color calibration so the results should be better now, but you can still get a green cast. I am working on better star color calibration. The current version only uses 3 parameters, whereas in a new version it will use 9 parameters (3x3 calibration matrix), then the green cast should be gone as well. So most likely in the next APP version this will be fixed as well , as will the selective color tool, it will be integrated in the left control panel, it won't have it's own window anymore.

Cheers,

Mabula



   
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Awesome. Looks a lot better now, thanks a lot Mabula! Here's the result:  http://www.astrobin.com/309856/D/



   
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Excellent Frank, I am glad you got it working correctly 😉 !

Cheers,

Mabula



   
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